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		<title>By: The Bak &#8211; 5 &#171; Wwbarackobama&#39;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://thefreedomthinker.com/2009/06/03/simply_islam/#comment-701</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bak &#8211; 5 &#171; Wwbarackobama&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Simply Islam – Obama to Speak in Cairo « The Freedom Thinker [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Confronting the Brutal Facts &#8211; Planning for Tomorrow &#171; American Missive</title>
		<link>http://thefreedomthinker.com/2009/06/03/simply_islam/#comment-672</link>
		<dc:creator>Confronting the Brutal Facts &#8211; Planning for Tomorrow &#171; American Missive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Islam will continue to grow and strengthen particularly in Europe. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: On 9/11 State Department Urges Raising Money for Mosques?!?! &#171; The Freedom Thinker</title>
		<link>http://thefreedomthinker.com/2009/06/03/simply_islam/#comment-614</link>
		<dc:creator>On 9/11 State Department Urges Raising Money for Mosques?!?! &#171; The Freedom Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as 200,000,000 Muslims and as many as 900,000,000 Muslims are cool with the idea of violent Jihad according to research.  And the &#8220;Religion of Peace&#8221; is still clocking in at 3-4 average documented killings [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] as 200,000,000 Muslims and as many as 900,000,000 Muslims are cool with the idea of violent Jihad according to research.  And the &#8220;Religion of Peace&#8221; is still clocking in at 3-4 average documented killings [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Did President Obama&#8217;s Middle East Speech Help? &#171; The Freedom Thinker</title>
		<link>http://thefreedomthinker.com/2009/06/03/simply_islam/#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>Did President Obama&#8217;s Middle East Speech Help? &#171; The Freedom Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nothing about the culture and content of Islamhas changed.   President Obama could have achieved the same result without prostituting himself [...]</description>
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		<title>By: President Obama Prostitutes Himself to Islam &#171; The Freedom Thinker</title>
		<link>http://thefreedomthinker.com/2009/06/03/simply_islam/#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator>President Obama Prostitutes Himself to Islam &#171; The Freedom Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Himself to&#160;Islam    President Obama spoke in Cairo on June 4th for which I prepared by giving an indepth analysis of Islam and it&#8217;s challenge for the western free world.  This speech was worse then I could have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Himself to&nbsp;Islam    President Obama spoke in Cairo on June 4th for which I prepared by giving an indepth analysis of Islam and it&#8217;s challenge for the western free world.  This speech was worse then I could have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Freedom Thinker</title>
		<link>http://thefreedomthinker.com/2009/06/03/simply_islam/#comment-404</link>
		<dc:creator>Freedom Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with TP that the loss in the war is not a forgone conclusion.  Although President Obama&#039;s speech did some damage.  I do agree that a change in a the broad ideology of Jihad is the a long-range goal and this will only be done through an evolution of Islam&#039;s nature I wouldn&#039;t phrase things the way you phrased them.  It should not be a war against Islam as a whole or a war against Allah.  Regardless of our perspective on his nature.  It should be a war against terrorism and Jihadist Islam... Regardless of what Obama did or DIDN&#039;T say in his speech yesterday.

As for your main point regarding the changability of Islam.  I recognize I could be wrong but I hope that I&#039;m not.  Both Surah 5:64 and Surah 13:42 seem to leave a window open for Allah bestowing as he will, and that he can do both good and evil as he is the &quot;master of all scheming&quot;.  Also, do Surah 2:106 and 16:101 not provide for abrogation of texts in the Qu&#039;ran?

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?&quot; Surah 2: 106

&quot;When We substitute one revelation for another, and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages), they say, &quot;Thou art but a forger&quot;: but most of them understand not.&quot; Surah 16:101 &lt;/blockquote&gt;

To me this sounds like the key&#039;s to the evolution of Islam.  Do I read them out of context? Please explain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with TP that the loss in the war is not a forgone conclusion.  Although President Obama&#8217;s speech did some damage.  I do agree that a change in a the broad ideology of Jihad is the a long-range goal and this will only be done through an evolution of Islam&#8217;s nature I wouldn&#8217;t phrase things the way you phrased them.  It should not be a war against Islam as a whole or a war against Allah.  Regardless of our perspective on his nature.  It should be a war against terrorism and Jihadist Islam&#8230; Regardless of what Obama did or DIDN&#8217;T say in his speech yesterday.</p>
<p>As for your main point regarding the changability of Islam.  I recognize I could be wrong but I hope that I&#8217;m not.  Both Surah 5:64 and Surah 13:42 seem to leave a window open for Allah bestowing as he will, and that he can do both good and evil as he is the &#8220;master of all scheming&#8221;.  Also, do Surah 2:106 and 16:101 not provide for abrogation of texts in the Qu&#8217;ran?</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?&#8221; Surah 2: 106</p>
<p>&#8220;When We substitute one revelation for another, and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages), they say, &#8220;Thou art but a forger&#8221;: but most of them understand not.&#8221; Surah 16:101 </p></blockquote>
<p>To me this sounds like the key&#8217;s to the evolution of Islam.  Do I read them out of context? Please explain.</p>
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		<title>By: TennesseePaul</title>
		<link>http://thefreedomthinker.com/2009/06/03/simply_islam/#comment-403</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Second, we are losing, not winning in Afghanistan &amp; Iraq. So long as they remain Muslim, we have been defeated and can not win.&quot;

This is not a forgone conclussion, the winning or losing in the wars.
First, the conversion of the populus from Islam was never the intent of the war. It was to remove hostile threats and regimes.
Second, the fact that Iraqi&#039;s rejected violent jihad in the recent years, allowing for a draw down in troops, is in itself a victory in the war of ideologies.
Third, the new environment in Iraq and Afghanistan is more permiable to alternative worldviews, though admittedly not as open as other nations, it is an improvement from the initial setting. Declaring no immediate rejection of Islam does not suffice. To alter the mind set of an entire populus requires considerable time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Second, we are losing, not winning in Afghanistan &amp; Iraq. So long as they remain Muslim, we have been defeated and can not win.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is not a forgone conclussion, the winning or losing in the wars.<br />
First, the conversion of the populus from Islam was never the intent of the war. It was to remove hostile threats and regimes.<br />
Second, the fact that Iraqi&#8217;s rejected violent jihad in the recent years, allowing for a draw down in troops, is in itself a victory in the war of ideologies.<br />
Third, the new environment in Iraq and Afghanistan is more permiable to alternative worldviews, though admittedly not as open as other nations, it is an improvement from the initial setting. Declaring no immediate rejection of Islam does not suffice. To alter the mind set of an entire populus requires considerable time.</p>
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		<title>By: Obama&#8217;s Speech to the Middle East in Cairo &#171; The Freedom Thinker</title>
		<link>http://thefreedomthinker.com/2009/06/03/simply_islam/#comment-402</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama&#8217;s Speech to the Middle East in Cairo &#171; The Freedom Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Speech to the Middle East in&#160;Cairo    I prepared for this speech by giving my own detailed analysis on the Middle East/Muslim/Islam issue [...]</description>
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		<title>By: dajjal</title>
		<link>http://thefreedomthinker.com/2009/06/03/simply_islam/#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>dajjal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I regret to inform you that your otherwise excellent intensive &amp; extensive post contains two egregious errors. First &amp; foremost, the following statement is perfectly false:

Thankfully and confusingly enough, the Qu’ran is not a closed book Allah is “open to all types of plans”.  It’s own text allows for editing and adjustments over time.  The Muslims can change their religious text if they so desire.  What is confusing to me is why this has not yet been done. 

Turn first to &lt;a href=&quot;http://qb.gomen.org/QuranBrowser/cgi/bin/retrieve.cgi?version=pickthall+yusufali+khan+shakir+sherali+khalifa+arberry+palmer+rodwell+sale&amp;layout=auto&amp;searchstring=005:3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;5:3&lt;/a&gt;
&quot;...This day, I have perfected your religion for you, ...&quot; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://qb.gomen.org/QuranBrowser/cgi/bin/retrieve.cgi?version=pickthall+yusufali+khan+shakir+sherali+khalifa+arberry+palmer+rodwell+sale&amp;layout=auto&amp;searchstring=011:1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;11:1&lt;/a&gt;.
Perfection can not be improved, it can only be defiled. Allah explicitly proscribes changing his word and his war cult.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://qb.gomen.org/QuranBrowser/cgi/bin/retrieve.cgi?version=pickthall+yusufali+khan+shakir+sherali+khalifa+arberry+palmer+rodwell+sale&amp;layout=auto&amp;searchstring=006:115&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;6:115. And the Word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can change His Words. ...&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://qb.gomen.org/QuranBrowser/cgi/bin/retrieve.cgi?version=pickthall+yusufali+khan+shakir+sherali+khalifa+arberry+palmer+rodwell+sale&amp;layout=auto&amp;searchstring=030:30&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;30:30. So set you (O Muhammad ) your face towards the religion of pure Islâmic Monotheism Hanifa (worship none but Allâh Alone) Allâh&#039;s Fitrah (i.e. Allâh&#039;s Islâmic Monotheism), with which He has created mankind. No change let there be in Khalq­illâh (i.e. the Religion of Allâh Islâmic Monotheism), that is the straight religion, but most of men know not. [Tafsir At­Tabarî, Vol 21, Page 41] &lt;/a&gt; Allah issued an explicit curse upon Muslims who would exchange Jihad for productive agricultural pursuits. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/abudawud/023.sat.html#023.3455&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Abu Dawud 23.3455&lt;/a&gt;. 

Second, we are losing, not winning in Afghanistan &amp; Iraq. So long as they remain Muslim, we have been defeated and can not win.  Victory requires the complete extinction of Islam. Anything less guarantees its eventual resurgence and triumph. 

Most of the Ummah is descended from victims converted at sword point or under the imposition of Jizya. Only 13% have read the Qur&#039;an in their native tongue.  

We must hit them where they live, directly, explicitly, intensely and extensively: with the fact bomb. We must show them, from Islam&#039;s canon of scripture &amp; tradition, the true character of Allah &amp; his messenger; demon and demented, narcissistic pederast, lecher &amp; pirate. We must so shame and disillusion them that they will apostatize in great numbers. Nothing else will crush their supremacism &amp; triumphalism.  They must be defeated militarily and spiritually. Allah must be exposed as an impotent idol and Moe must be exposed as a bloodthirsty barbarian. 

Please visit the list of on line petitions at http://www.geocities.com/crusadersarmory/  .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I regret to inform you that your otherwise excellent intensive &amp; extensive post contains two egregious errors. First &amp; foremost, the following statement is perfectly false:</p>
<p>Thankfully and confusingly enough, the Qu’ran is not a closed book Allah is “open to all types of plans”.  It’s own text allows for editing and adjustments over time.  The Muslims can change their religious text if they so desire.  What is confusing to me is why this has not yet been done. </p>
<p>Turn first to <a href="http://qb.gomen.org/QuranBrowser/cgi/bin/retrieve.cgi?version=pickthall+yusufali+khan+shakir+sherali+khalifa+arberry+palmer+rodwell+sale&amp;layout=auto&amp;searchstring=005:3" rel="nofollow">5:3</a><br />
&#8220;&#8230;This day, I have perfected your religion for you, &#8230;&#8221; and <a href="http://qb.gomen.org/QuranBrowser/cgi/bin/retrieve.cgi?version=pickthall+yusufali+khan+shakir+sherali+khalifa+arberry+palmer+rodwell+sale&amp;layout=auto&amp;searchstring=011:1" rel="nofollow">11:1</a>.<br />
Perfection can not be improved, it can only be defiled. Allah explicitly proscribes changing his word and his war cult.  <a href="http://qb.gomen.org/QuranBrowser/cgi/bin/retrieve.cgi?version=pickthall+yusufali+khan+shakir+sherali+khalifa+arberry+palmer+rodwell+sale&amp;layout=auto&amp;searchstring=006:115" rel="nofollow">6:115. And the Word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can change His Words. &#8230;</a> <a href="http://qb.gomen.org/QuranBrowser/cgi/bin/retrieve.cgi?version=pickthall+yusufali+khan+shakir+sherali+khalifa+arberry+palmer+rodwell+sale&amp;layout=auto&amp;searchstring=030:30" rel="nofollow">30:30. So set you (O Muhammad ) your face towards the religion of pure Islâmic Monotheism Hanifa (worship none but Allâh Alone) Allâh&#8217;s Fitrah (i.e. Allâh&#8217;s Islâmic Monotheism), with which He has created mankind. No change let there be in Khalq­illâh (i.e. the Religion of Allâh Islâmic Monotheism), that is the straight religion, but most of men know not. [Tafsir At­Tabarî, Vol 21, Page 41] </a> Allah issued an explicit curse upon Muslims who would exchange Jihad for productive agricultural pursuits. See <a href="http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/abudawud/023.sat.html#023.3455" rel="nofollow">Abu Dawud 23.3455</a>. </p>
<p>Second, we are losing, not winning in Afghanistan &amp; Iraq. So long as they remain Muslim, we have been defeated and can not win.  Victory requires the complete extinction of Islam. Anything less guarantees its eventual resurgence and triumph. </p>
<p>Most of the Ummah is descended from victims converted at sword point or under the imposition of Jizya. Only 13% have read the Qur&#8217;an in their native tongue.  </p>
<p>We must hit them where they live, directly, explicitly, intensely and extensively: with the fact bomb. We must show them, from Islam&#8217;s canon of scripture &amp; tradition, the true character of Allah &amp; his messenger; demon and demented, narcissistic pederast, lecher &amp; pirate. We must so shame and disillusion them that they will apostatize in great numbers. Nothing else will crush their supremacism &amp; triumphalism.  They must be defeated militarily and spiritually. Allah must be exposed as an impotent idol and Moe must be exposed as a bloodthirsty barbarian. </p>
<p>Please visit the list of on line petitions at <a href="http://www.geocities.com/crusadersarmory/" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.com/crusadersarmory/</a>  .</p>
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		<title>By: TennesseePaul</title>
		<link>http://thefreedomthinker.com/2009/06/03/simply_islam/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>TennesseePaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheeeesh! Quite the post there Freedom Thinker. Impressive</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheeeesh! Quite the post there Freedom Thinker. Impressive</p>
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