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		<title>By: The Freedom Thinker Joins the AmericanMissive.com &#171; The Freedom Thinker</title>
		<link>http://thefreedomthinker.com/2009/08/21/there-is-no-health-care-debate/#comment-632</link>
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		<title>By: Medicare &#8211; the Elephant in the Room &#171; The Freedom Thinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Medicare &#8211; the Elephant in the Room &#171; The Freedom Thinker</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Freedom Thinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freedom Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for stopping by! I&#039;m not saying there isn&#039;t good ideas out there.  I&#039;m just saying that ideas designed to continue the status quo are not change.  And take away from the true issue mounting us debt and insolvency forcing inflation and taxes in the future that will increase the cost not-decrease the cost of health care. 

But perhaps I missed it what Republican&#039;s are proposing allowing interstate commerce of insurance?  

As for tort reform, I&#039;m not sure about that why should congress be allowed to decide how much pain and suffering a person has or how much in damages would truly punish a company.  This is trying to put technocrats in positions of power as much as any public option in my opinion.  I&#039;m not for tort reform.

As for deregulation this is indeed a better step in the right direction and it is something that has to be done also the decoupling of health insurance from company benefits is critical too.  Individuals need to be responsible for their own health care.  Insurance companies need to focus on designing solutions for individuals not employers.  

I understand that the Republican&#039;s &quot;Patient Choice Act of 2009&quot;  removed corporate tax benefits for employees but other then that I didn&#039;t read much about deregulation?  Only tax cuts and further revisions to Medicare/Medicaid (i.e. more Republican spending).  They had State Enterchange Partnerships, I think, but no deregulation of interstate commerce for health plans directly that I saw.  And then there was even more spending for additional government health programs for diseases and vaccines something like $50 million I think... To me it read like more of the same status quo.  More Medicare/Medicaid and more government spending with a little change by pushing health care insurance costs onto individuals.  So that they can shoulder the hidden taxes in health care placed on the industry by Medicare and Medicaid.

I don&#039;t purpose that those three ideas are bad for the nation (except perhaps tort reform).  Deregulation and a focus on individual health insurance (vs. employer) are necessary of course in concert with the abolition of Medicare/caid.   As long as Medicare/caid exists we are heading for an economic catastrophe.  I&#039;ll write more on that maybe this weekend in response to your post below.  We&#039;re going to default at some point and time if we keep up the pace even the CBO says Medicare is bankrupt by 2017.  It&#039;s just a matter of time.

What I&#039;m saying is there is no debate.  What are Republican&#039;s proposing as a viable alternative? I agree there are American&#039;s out their with good ideas.  Deregulation and taxing benefits is a good idea because it forces individuals to be responsible for themselves.  But other then the taxing idea I haven&#039;t seen much else of benefit from the Republican&#039;s just more spending and more of the Status quo.  Medicare/caid are running up costs just as much as benefits being handled by employers.  This is a hidden tax as well shifting the responsibility for health care from employers to individuals has merit but if you don&#039;t address the rising cost of health care created from Medicare/caid then your only shifting the burden from corporations to individuals to carry the rising costs.  The rising cost of health care is being driven by the elderly and they are or will be covered under Medicare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by! I&#8217;m not saying there isn&#8217;t good ideas out there.  I&#8217;m just saying that ideas designed to continue the status quo are not change.  And take away from the true issue mounting us debt and insolvency forcing inflation and taxes in the future that will increase the cost not-decrease the cost of health care. </p>
<p>But perhaps I missed it what Republican&#8217;s are proposing allowing interstate commerce of insurance?  </p>
<p>As for tort reform, I&#8217;m not sure about that why should congress be allowed to decide how much pain and suffering a person has or how much in damages would truly punish a company.  This is trying to put technocrats in positions of power as much as any public option in my opinion.  I&#8217;m not for tort reform.</p>
<p>As for deregulation this is indeed a better step in the right direction and it is something that has to be done also the decoupling of health insurance from company benefits is critical too.  Individuals need to be responsible for their own health care.  Insurance companies need to focus on designing solutions for individuals not employers.  </p>
<p>I understand that the Republican&#8217;s &#8220;Patient Choice Act of 2009&#8243;  removed corporate tax benefits for employees but other then that I didn&#8217;t read much about deregulation?  Only tax cuts and further revisions to Medicare/Medicaid (i.e. more Republican spending).  They had State Enterchange Partnerships, I think, but no deregulation of interstate commerce for health plans directly that I saw.  And then there was even more spending for additional government health programs for diseases and vaccines something like $50 million I think&#8230; To me it read like more of the same status quo.  More Medicare/Medicaid and more government spending with a little change by pushing health care insurance costs onto individuals.  So that they can shoulder the hidden taxes in health care placed on the industry by Medicare and Medicaid.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t purpose that those three ideas are bad for the nation (except perhaps tort reform).  Deregulation and a focus on individual health insurance (vs. employer) are necessary of course in concert with the abolition of Medicare/caid.   As long as Medicare/caid exists we are heading for an economic catastrophe.  I&#8217;ll write more on that maybe this weekend in response to your post below.  We&#8217;re going to default at some point and time if we keep up the pace even the CBO says Medicare is bankrupt by 2017.  It&#8217;s just a matter of time.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m saying is there is no debate.  What are Republican&#8217;s proposing as a viable alternative? I agree there are American&#8217;s out their with good ideas.  Deregulation and taxing benefits is a good idea because it forces individuals to be responsible for themselves.  But other then the taxing idea I haven&#8217;t seen much else of benefit from the Republican&#8217;s just more spending and more of the Status quo.  Medicare/caid are running up costs just as much as benefits being handled by employers.  This is a hidden tax as well shifting the responsibility for health care from employers to individuals has merit but if you don&#8217;t address the rising cost of health care created from Medicare/caid then your only shifting the burden from corporations to individuals to carry the rising costs.  The rising cost of health care is being driven by the elderly and they are or will be covered under Medicare.</p>
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		<title>By: Here Rests American Health Care &#171; American Missive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Here Rests American Health Care &#171; American Missive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 21, 2009 by TennesseePaul    LONG BEACH— My friend The Freedom Thinker has written a post on his wonderful site concerning the lack of health care debate. I agree that the current state of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TennesseePaul</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. So you are saying there isn&#039;t one good idea out there at all? When a Republican suggests allowing interstate commerce of insurance, that is a power grab? When a Republican suggests limiting financial gains through frivolous lawsuits it is a power grab? Fascinating. I&#039;d think the two coupled together would reduce money to insurance companies. From what I understand Doctors purchase higher cost insurance to cover potential frivolous lawsuits. Capping the rewards would reduce the need, and/or cost of the insurance, thus reducing the money to said insurance company. Couple that with open interstate competition and money to insurance would seem to be even less... Then there is the decoupling of health insurance from company tax free benefits...

Perhaps you could expand on how those three ideas are just as bad for the nation as the &quot;public option&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. So you are saying there isn&#8217;t one good idea out there at all? When a Republican suggests allowing interstate commerce of insurance, that is a power grab? When a Republican suggests limiting financial gains through frivolous lawsuits it is a power grab? Fascinating. I&#8217;d think the two coupled together would reduce money to insurance companies. From what I understand Doctors purchase higher cost insurance to cover potential frivolous lawsuits. Capping the rewards would reduce the need, and/or cost of the insurance, thus reducing the money to said insurance company. Couple that with open interstate competition and money to insurance would seem to be even less&#8230; Then there is the decoupling of health insurance from company tax free benefits&#8230;</p>
<p>Perhaps you could expand on how those three ideas are just as bad for the nation as the &#8220;public option&#8221;</p>
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